BOW A2: this family too, zine – feedback

  1. /(email) Zine – text again is good, in parts really good. A really really useful productive exercise and I can see why you did it. Really good end product, definitely professional standard quality. Images are ultimately a WIP and could be progressed into something more mature if you wanted to.

    It looks like you are making a lot of progress in a really short amount of time it’s actually quite frightening to see how much shit you get through!

  2. (email – ex OCA) The first thing I thought was about text and (visual) image. With text we naturally, sub-consciously, often without regard start at the first word top left and read from left to right, top to bottom. I thought of this in respect of the visual images that came after the text, about how difficult it is to interrupt that structural, taught, cultural position. It is different – albeit maybe only directionally – in other written languages.
    And also about how the process of reading (the words) from front to back, another construct, delivers the context by which the visual images work with this reader; how they might, or might not, resonate with this reader… I felt “positioned” by the text. I knew where to start by the construct of who I am, the position of the text, the way the text was placed told me where the work began. It’s start.

    The images, perhaps by design, perhaps as a product of the process, are soft. And I think that lack of didacticism works – even with the agency of the text ringing in my ears. I could sense a tension about where the images sat on the page(s). The continued resistance to engage with a traditional form, to ensure that I, as a viewer, would have to look in order to see.

    Did you edit this by yourself, or did you work with someone? Either way I’d be interested in the thought processes.

  3. (email) Thanks again for sending the zine to me – it’s soo good to see an idea come to fruition.  The text and images do work well together  and I ws particularly struck by the linkage between “Both mummies lay still. …….” On the bottom on one page followed on the next page by the photograph of the elderly lady waving.
  4. (message) Interesting without a title on the cover. I like the image on the inside cover too. The text reads well and is nicely spaced making it easier to read and digest. I like the mix of image sizes and layouts. It has one of my favourite images in it although I prefer that image in colour./I’m sitting here now trying to workout the significance of the Virgin Mary and the two mummies./
  5. (email – non OCA) I was left kind of wanting to find out more about this place you visited for your research. I thoroughly enjoyed reading and looking at your work. I wish it was a big book to be able to see those great images. I thought [it] was a very honest exploration of family and religion perhaps?, and motherhood with some pictorial references that reminded me a bit of the suffering of the ‘madre Dolorosa’ that griefs for the flesh of his son.

CS A2: Student Feedback

Feedback as it arrives which may influence any further edits I am bound to make after some distance and before assessment. (I have already seen much I will adjust or hone).

  1. From someone whose clarity of thought I always envy:

Really interesting read. A few hyper-critical comments:

  • Title: intriguing, draws in the reader – but for me the subtitle doesn’t add much
  • Intro: describing the digital revolution as “1950 to date” distracted me… I accept there might be an argument for that claim but in isolation and without further justification it looks odd
  • Page 6: personal opinion, but I think any discussion of Bourdieu’s theory of photography as a fundamentally bourgeois endeavour should recognise that whilst this was true of most of the medium’s existence, it is much less so in the democratised, pervasive and low-cost digital photography / social sharing era
  • Page 10: you could explain Verfremdungseffekt for the casual reader (i.e. me) 🙂
  • Pages 10-12: I’m not sure whether including your own work is considered appropriate for a Lit Review? It’s definitely encouraged for the final essay but the Lit Review is intended to draw from established sources (no offence!)
  • Conclusion: “according to the latest scientific philosophy” should probably have a reference attached

 

2.  More useful suggestions –

  • 5 – re reality and bourgeoisie limited view of it: This is a really interesting idea and as I read it I am reminded of social media and the use of it to display ‘perfection’ in our lives, rather than ‘reality’ (if such things exist!)
  • And likewise here – do I now think in twitter or facebook comments when I have an experience? I wonder how much social media has changed our experiences of life…
  • 6 –  Re the growing public ‘show’ of emotions: And how we have all embraced this diminishing of privacy in our own lives – willingly giving all to advertisers to use as they like!
  • 7 –  Re Sontag’s statement about images becoming art: Such as archive photographs becoming more elevated in importance with time?
  • 9  – Love this link to physics! You may need a reference here?  – I agree but it comes from lots of reading and was confirmed for my in the Systems theory book but Karen Barad’s description shifts the meaning slightly and I need to think about it more before I re-write this section.
  • Include a Muholi image – good idea

 

3. approximation of what was said – you discuss 9 or so texts but you’ve probably read about 50 and my feeling was you have sold yourself short. I replied but I only have so many words and if I mentioned all those texts then I’d only be able to write one or two sentences about each book. And under these circumstances, I wonder if this assignment can only ever be a snapshot of where I am at the moment.