A couple of weeks ago, I planned to devote a day to OCA work. The kids’ computer went awry and so I had to hand my Mac over to one of them to attend a live lesson, and I ended up cutting down an overgrown ivy bush which I’ve been begging the landlords to deal with, to no avail, for years. I ended up spending the day at it and went to bed exhausted. (It’s still not quite finished!)
As I did, I noticed the way the wooden fence had warped, rotted, become enmeshed with the plant, and of course, the entangled nature of its growth. And ever since, I have been thinking – that is not quantum entanglement. That is physical entanglement. I have been thinking about this ever since and what that means for the whole thrust of my essay.
I gathered up the bravery to send the essay to a couple of scientists working or studying in a branch of quantum mechanics. I asked the following:
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- Big worries of mine apply to my use of the word Entanglement which informs the whole essay (:-/) and also the brief description of Superposition. The other night I lay awake thinking, I need to make clear that quantum entanglement is different from the entanglement of a fungal system/rhizome (or any physical system for that matter) because in QS (I think) we don’t have any way of seeing how two entities might be connected, we simply see, under certain experimental conditions, that they are. (Am aware, there’s is stuff we can’t see but suspect must exist)
- If that is so, do I need to suggest that the entanglement of language, time, ideas is ‘merely’ metaphor, which Karen Barad asks us to avoid. Also, if that is the case, the whole argument of matter and meaning being ‘entangled’ is undermined. If the essay is flawed because of this, that’s OK, as long as I acknowledge it. I also think I am muddying the difference between superposition and entanglement in my thinking – evident in the writing. There are a couple of highlighted sentences that concern me but basically, Part 1 which begins on p5 ends p22 would benefit from a scientist’s eye.
I am really glad I did ask. Thank you fellow Holly for asking her husband, Professor Alan Woodward from the University of Surrey to help out. I can almost hear the deep sigh – the following has helped me to clarify.
- The concepts you are describing relate more to quantum social sciences and to philosophy than to quantum physics. Physicists would argue that quantum processes can only occur at the nano-particle level and cannot be applied to the Newtonian level (our experience of the world). Also, that quantum entanglement and superposition are provable physical processes. He’s aware that social sciences are importing some of the theory of quantum physics and of but argues that using them to describe human behaviour is a metaphor rather than a potentially provable fact. From a philosophical point of view, the concepts make sense, but it would be wise to steer clear of correlating them with the natural sciences.
- An easy to understand explanation of superposition is to think of tossing a coin. When it is in the air it is neither heads nor tails but has the potential to be either. (I knew I had got this wrong – I have removed it as I suspected I would and focused on entanglement only for now – word count was an issue in any case.)
Everything is interrelated physically but the forces that have hold sway are different at different sizes. Take for example when you sit down on a chair – in our world, the Newtonian world, although everything is made of the same particles, you do not fall through the chair. At cosmological scale, the rotation of our solar system around the galaxy is something that clearly exists, but does not affect us at planetary level – the size and timescale are irrelevant to us. Equally, for most purposes, quantum forces are not relevant to our experience of the world.
The above section has prompted me to really underline the post-structural aspect of the essay, quoting Barad as well as using her repeated words to drum home the point that a Cartesian view is challenged in her reading. I have also quoted Prof. Woodward (I suspect Barad would refer to PW as a scientific realist) the use of the word by writing “Barad’s entanglement” often, as well as including the work philosophy to make that aspect loud and clear. I have in addition underlined the fact that entanglement in the physical world is not the same as quantum entanglement. But I have included extra citations from Barad about living in a quantum world and dissolving the boundaries between the two models – classical/quantum.
As far as correlating quantum processes with biology goes, this is something Vedral explicitly does over and over again in many of his talks online and in articles. I now appreciate that he is probably a maverick – he does refer to “experimental” science when he discusses these macro quantum processes. I really wish I could ask Vedral some stuff but so far no joy in my attempts to contact him.
Later today I will be chatting with Matt and will then incorporate his advice and suggestions before posting another version which I hope will be closer to where it needs to be by September!
All in all – the doubts in my mind were right and I am extremely grateful to Holly and her husband for their time and patience. And thank goodness I took the time to cut down that ivy plant – it was a useful exercise for so many reasons in the end.
BOW Developments
I have been wondering about the online version of the work. I have always been very clear it should exist online and off but be not exactly the same. The online version should be animated and should take advantage of the possibilities offered by digital media rather than simply be an exact digital copy of the offline object. A website like Lisa Barnards thegolddepository is an inspiration and the work may still go that way. But I have been playing with the idea of an ePublication book. Seeing another student using it was interesting as I was able to follow an informative email conversation that explored some of the pitfalls.
Here’s my first early experiment: https://indd.adobe.com/view/6b1b7241-7472-4f7c-becf-2d18508c8607
- There are issues – my font is too small but I’ve animated it to go big and then it’s too big. I might need to address the font size and type throughout.
- I don’t want animations on every page – judicious – at the moments it’s just an early, oh, look what I can do here….
- The moving image fragments I’ve placed are not sized correctly so they don’t work – I need to take them into Premier Pro and size them exactly as they will be used. The scaling feature which works great with still images doesn’t handle moving image at all.
- I will probably include a hyperlink to a short film – have asked someone if they’d be up for writing some music for it. That would take the viewer right out of the book so I need to consider carefully where to place it.
- I am wondering about sound – at the moment there is no audio. Something to experiment with I guess.
- I wonder if Lisa Barnard’s design people used InDesign to get some of those animations on her website… maybe that is something I can do anyway. Not sure. You can save as gifs and Squarespace does take gifs. But it’s a template and I am not comfortable operating outside the template – maybe need to look at creating web pages which feels daunting. But maybe the ePub book is enough… all things to consider.
Great progress made and an inspired step to seek advice. Thinking of ‘metaphor’ – do you think Barad would be happier if a different word was used or invented which basically means the same ? Holding the concept of ‘metaphor’ in my head, I can actually hang on to the construct of ‘entanglement of language, time, ideas’.
I’ve been following the ebook creation posts too; it seems so complicated. Yet, the Edge-zine layout on the website does incorporate video so there must be a way of doing out so that the film with music can stay in the ebook. Re the page with the woman looking through the eyepiece viewer – I somehow wanted the puppets to zoom out of the screen.
I read your post and then turned to look at PMQs to see, “The protagonist screamed/the crowd kept moving along as if nothing strange had happened/ then an influencer appeared on screen and glared – the protagonist continued yelling/ it was embarrassing” – so apt!
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In a way I think Barad is saying there is no metaphor – discourse (which goes beyond language) is as much an emergent and entangled entity as physical objects which don’t exist without the discourse in any case. It’s a poststructural concept that’s hard to get your head around. And the Object Ontology people don’t agree! Nor does the guy who wrote The Master and his Emissary… there’s a good animation of the void which is how I envisage what Barad is discussing – let me find it
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I’ve added some replies below – here is a good passage which explains it. This way of thinking falls under New Materialism which I’ve not discussed to avoid muddying the waters and word count but maybe I need to mention it. https://newmaterialism.eu/almanac/p/phenomena-agential-realism.html
Ps. Barad does indeed invent new words when old ones fail!
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I understood it as I read it, although I wouldn’t be able to repeat it I don’t think. One of the difficulties is that no examples are provided so everything is abstract. Any model/hypothesis needs to be tested and be capable of being disproved as well as proved. Examples would be good.
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Good idea for the puppets. Could stitch some stills together of the puppets too – quite like the concept of shadow puppet animation in an ebook
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Interesting to see your ID experiments! BTW salt is the way to kill ivy – cut it square and wrap duck tape to make a cup. pour in salt which the plant drinks in for a saline demise. You can perhaps find a salt metaphor too 🙂
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Good tip. Thanks! Have a way to go with the ePub – hopefully will have some tome tomorrow. I really want music to play continuously from front cover onwards but not sure if that’s possible. Will take a look at your next iteration when on proper Mac…
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Think you can do that – look at the media settings. Play on page open and loop. Not tried it but guess it works.
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Yeah… I think it loops as long as you’re on the page but stops when you turn. But will give it a go. Ta
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